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There is great hope for America....0nly 20% of electorate is Liberal!

Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
conservatives, politics, change, obama, freedom, liberty, truth, hope, liberals, independents, moderates
By TryUsingLogic
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/104491849.html?page=2

Here are a few numbers that help explain why Senate Democrat Russ Feingold has trailed in every public poll this fall. They show the political leanings of likely voters in a recent statewide survey by Marist:

Liberals: 20%

Moderates: 33%

Conservatives: 47%

There is adequate proof that conservatives and moderate can eventually save this country from the failures of Obama and his regime!

It may take time, but BO's path to pure Big Government Liberalism will be turned back towards free market capitalism and the pursuit of individual freedom and happiness that our forefathers dreamed of.

Another poll showed that in the voting booth, 68% of the voters, will be thinking about how Obama mislead us.

It is truly the moment to believe that hope and change could actually happen.....and America can get back on track!

Good News!

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TryUsingLogic

The news is saying there is adequate evidence to show that the BO regime intentionally mislead the public about the severity of the BP oil spill. BO was going to change the game.....we didn't know it was to mud wrestling!

    Reply#1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
    TryUsingLogic

    Bob Woodward says BO's heart isn't in the war in Afghanistan.....it's a political whim. Our solders are dying for a whim......someone should tell Kerry!

      Reply#2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
      TryUsingLogic

      57% of the public says ethics problems have increased since BO too office.

      The majority of people want BO's health care bill overturned.

      How is that hopey changey stuff workin' for you liberals?

        Reply#3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT
        gatoralum

        It is great news, conservatives remain in the minority. Liberals and moderates should ignore them and do what is needed to improve things in this country, just like they have done the last two years with Health care reform, financial industry reform, extending full rights all Americans and improving our image around the world.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
        TryUsingLogic

        Liberals and moderates should ignore them

        your reply is soaked in pure denial.......and it is a growing disease for Liberals!

        • 2 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT
        gatoralum

        Who do you think won more votes in four of the last five presidential elections. So this final gasp of the right, with a temper tantrum over the inability of the president to fix in 18 months what the pricks on the right took 8 years to screw up, will make you happy for a couple of months. Frankly, putting some of the geniuses running as TP candidates in office will be the best thing that could happen to liberals and moderates. As candidates we can only guess how inept they will be. Elect a few and their incompetence and outright nuttery will be clear to all.

        • 3 votes
        #4.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT
        TryUsingLogic

        Elect a few and their incompetence and outright nuttery will be clear to all.

        We elected BO.....and the incompetence and outright nuttery is very clear to the majority.

        Denial runs deep in the shallow minds of Liberals!

        • 2 votes
        #4.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:27 PM EDT
        gatoralum

        You are not in the majority. Never have been, never will be.

          #4.4 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT
          TryUsingLogic

          You are not in the majority. Never have been, never will be.

          I'm currently in the majority of people who feel BO has let us down.....the polls clearly define that....

          Keep hanging on to that 20%......Utopian Dreaming at its best!

          • 2 votes
          #4.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT
          gatoralum

          Plurality. Majority would be more than 50 %. BO has better numbers than Reagan had at the same time, and he did not have to deal with an entire Network devoted to his destruction or the added vigor to opposition that bigotry brings.

          • 1 vote
          #4.6 - Fri Oct 8, 2010 6:26 PM EDT
          TryUsingLogic

          Plurality. Majority would be more than 50 %. BO has better numbers than Reagan had at the same time, and he did not have to deal with an entire Network devoted to his destruction or the added vigor to opposition that bigotry brings.

          You liberal Utopians miss one major fact.....Reagan believed and promoted free markets and capitalism which brought America back to prosperity. BO is promoting Bigger Government, massive regulation and uncontrolled spending and taxes...and that failed vision tied to Socialism is not working....never has!

          Your denial runs deep......but its comforting that you hold a minority opinion!

          BO is failing....the signs are everywhere.....open your eyes!

            #4.7 - Fri Oct 8, 2010 8:01 PM EDT
            DLMaston

            Like Dorothy with her slippers, they think that if they just keep saying it....it might come true. There's no place like home.....there''s no place like home......there's no place like home......

            The real shame is that analysts from their own side keep telling them to get ready for trouble, and yet the denial runs deep.

            • 2 votes
            #4.8 - Fri Oct 8, 2010 8:28 PM EDT
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            lifeisgood43

            Ha ha ha. For you to say that Pres Obama doesn't care about the military speak of total bull @!$%#. Bush was the worst CoC ever. Now that Bush was a man who didn't care about the troops. 1st Bush sends the troops to Iraq to die under a web of lies and greed. Then Bush refuse to send enough troops to both Iraq and Afghan. Then Bush gave the troops sorry ass equipment and that includes armor that didn't stop a 22 bullet.

            Remember, Pres Obama is trying to finish the wars that Bush started

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 9:47 PM EDT
            TryUsingLogic

            Bush won the war in Iraq......BO is set to give up or lose the war in Afghanistan and maybe give up on Iraq.......

            BO's ship is sinking and the Liberals are cheering....WOW!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#6 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT
            lifeisgood43

            Bush won the Iraq war. Ha ha ha ha. Your statement has got to be one of the off the wall and morally wrong statements ever. I haven't heard anyone say that America won that war. Oh you mean when Bush was on the aircraft carrier and the banner said "Mission Accomplish". Is that when you backers of Bush said that the war was won because most American thought otherwise and our dead soldiers and the dead Iraqis after that stunt says otherwise too.

            • 3 votes
            #6.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT
            TryUsingLogic

            http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/02/joe-biden-obama-great-achievements-robert-gibbs.html

            Denial has you hallucinating!

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT
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            Vlad's dog

            Liberals, many

            conservatives, many

            moderates, the most.

            Moderates lean back and forth and wonder why there are not more moderates.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#7 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT
            TryUsingLogic

            Moderates lean back and forth and wonder why there are not more moderates.

            Moderation is the answer......and that is far from the failing plan of BO!

            That's why the Independents are leaning back to the right when it comes to the vote.

            • 2 votes
            #7.1 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT
            Vlad's dog

            Time will tell who votes where or what and why. My bet, not much will change, just a few seats.

              #7.2 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 10:44 PM EDT
              TryUsingLogic

              My bet, not much will change, just a few seats.

              My bet....time will prove you wrong....

              • 1 vote
              #7.3 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT
              DLMaston

              My prediction, for what it matters..... Republicans regain control of the Senate. Period.

              In the House, I'm predicting 35 - 40 seats. Then....we'll have to see how Obama changes. If he becomes Clinton and shifts to the center.....things will get done. If not.....then it's going to be an ugly, ugly two years.

              • 1 vote
              #7.4 - Fri Oct 8, 2010 8:35 PM EDT
              TryUsingLogic

              Then....we'll have to see how Obama changes. If he becomes Clinton and shifts to the center.....things will get done. If not.....then it's going to be an ugly, ugly two years.

              Waffle Willy had his eye on the political mood and his legacy.......BO has his mind on Utopia.......little chance for change!

                #7.5 - Fri Oct 8, 2010 9:02 PM EDT
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                Blayde

                Ok, I'm not reading the article. Conservatives refuse to pay for education, because they like, children to be as dumb as they are. They refuse to support single payer, so that they continue to struggle to pay medical bills. They support tax cuts for the wealthy so that the guys that screw them, can continue to sit on their money, instead of creating jobs so that they can prosper. Yep, there are lots of dumb people in America, who like cutting their nose off to spite the face that needed serious help to begin with with.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#8 - Sat Oct 9, 2010 9:45 PM EDT
                TryUsingLogic

                Yep, there are lots of dumb people in America, who like cutting their nose off to spite the face that needed serious help to begin with with.

                We have the best funded education system in the world.......it is failing because of mismanagement and the burden of union selfishness. Our country was founded to provide personal freedom and allow responsible individuals to pursue happiness and achieve better lives.

                Big Government regulating our every move and taxing us to pay for their power hungry foolishness is what makes Health care expensive and incomes low. Remember it is the hard working capitalist that funds all the needs of government. Government has no other way of functioning with out taking our hard earned money. Jobs are created by spirit of freedom and competition. You need to pay attention to history and the explicit facts that socialism is a failed system.

                I'm a fiscal conservative and hope that we will eventually educate our children to understand on their own that Big Governments and Religions manipulate the freedoms of all societies.

                There are lots of dumb people in America.....who like to sacrifice their rights and freedoms to Big Government Dictators....they are called Liberals!

                  #8.1 - Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
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                  Blayde

                  First point wrong, not only on funding but also your understanding of how it works;

                  http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_edu_spe-education-spending-of-gdp

                  Wrong on point two, even if you are lucky enough to be a rich American you aren't really getting taxed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg

                  Point three, you favor indoctrination to your own failed logic; so who is trying to force people into a failed belief? You can state a position with force but it isn't worth much if it is based on an a priori position.

                    Reply#9 - Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
                    TryUsingLogic

                    First point wrong, not only on funding but also your understanding of how it works;

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_GDP_(nominal)_estimates

                    The US GDP is the largest in the world and nearly equals the EU. We do spend more on education than any other country on earth! I guess you might say that Cuba has better education funding than anyone and that is why they are doing so well......you seem to think like Michael Moore who also doesn't know how it works!

                    Wrong on point two, even if you are lucky enough to be a rich American you aren't really getting taxed:

                    Progressivity and the Tax Burden

                    Our tax system, however, is highly progressive, meaning that as one's income rises, a higher proportion of that income is taxed. Thus, those in the highest tax brackets contribute more to the overall tax burden even though there are far more people in lower tax brackets.1

                    • According to data from the IRS, the bottom 50 percent of income earners pay approximately 4 percent of income taxes.
                    • The top 25 percent of income earners pay nearly 83 percent of the income tax burden, and the top 10 percent pay 65 percent.
                    • The top 1 percent of income earners pay almost 35 percent of all income taxes.
                    • The top 400 richest Americans paid 1.58 of total income taxes in 2000.

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_GDP_(nominal)_estimates

                    Point three, you favor indoctrination to your own failed logic;

                    As all liberals do....you favor indoctrination to your own failed logic!

                    Yes, there are a lot of dumb Liberals in America.........

                      Reply#10 - Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:08 PM EDT
                      Blayde

                      I guess we are at an impasse, I think you are dumb and you think I am dumb.

                        #10.1 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:09 AM EDT
                        Vlad's dog

                        No logic need apply is the sign, Blayde. But I do like a good ole prognosticator, Do you think it will snow a lot this year?

                          #10.2 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
                          Blayde

                          It isn't going to be very cold this winter unless one denies AGW. I'm tired of auguring with stupid, it seems to be all the rage these days.

                            #10.3 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:47 PM EDT
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                            TryUsingLogic

                            I'm tired of auguring with stupid, it seems to be all the rage these days.

                            Perfect example of arrogance and denial.......You are custom made for BO!

                              Reply#11 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:08 PM EDT
                              Blayde

                              We are educated and very tired of arguing with antithesis.

                              Perfect example of arrogance and denial

                              A perfect example of projection, so Rove/Cheney.

                                #11.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:57 PM EDT
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                                TryUsingLogic

                                We are educated and very tired of arguing with antithesis.

                                Obama, Rove and Cheny are educated.....So what is your point! Denial? Arrogance?

                                Once can be very intelligent and still fall for Socialism, Jesus, or Allah? So what is your point?

                                There is a reason only 20% of the electorate are Liberals.....It's a poor choice for responsible thinkers!

                                Your answers to the serious problems everyone sees with Obama is self defining.

                                If you are tired of the truth.....why waste your time here?

                                  Reply#12 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:50 PM EDT
                                  Blayde

                                  TryUsingLogic, you are not living up to your name

                                  Your answers to the serious problems everyone sees with Obama is self defining.

                                  You seem to have memory problems, How did Bush do anything for you?
                                  Notice the pause here, I am waiting and ready. Both of us will die before you defeat the logic of your your own reflection. We are winning the battles that are fought on sacred fields, you are finding it hard to fight a battle on anything other than a paved parking lot, where nature has been savaged by greed.

                                    Reply#13 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:24 PM EDT
                                    TryUsingLogic

                                    How did Bush do anything for you?

                                    This Bush thing gets very old......and look what is happening!

                                    Guess what the “favorable” rating was for Bush - 45%. For the most hated president ever, according to the left. Because now the public has something to compare Bush to, rather than comparing him to the rantings of the New York Times. And they are comparing him to Barack Hussein Obama. And Americans are increasingly nostalgic for a real president. Meanwhile Obama’s polls continue to sink to the low 40s after only 21 months in office

                                    http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2010/10/08/bushobama-poll-comparisons-are-revealing/

                                    Talking about George Bush will not erase the embarassing failure of Barack Obama! The Polls show people are missing Bush after the BO experience!

                                      Reply#14 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:48 PM EDT
                                      Blayde

                                      Yes, Bush gets old, I knew we would pay for that tax refund so I cashed the check and went on vacation. I never understood how much blood was involved. Obama is trying to fix that but you guys aren't very helpful.

                                        #14.1 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
                                        TryUsingLogic

                                        Obama is trying to fix that but you guys aren't very helpful.

                                        Our children will pay for what BO has done......

                                        If you hated what Bush did.....you should be speechless at Obama's travesty!

                                        Obviously....you are not!

                                          #14.2 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:51 PM EDT
                                          Blayde

                                          No, obviously you are incapable of logic.

                                          If you hated what Bush did.....you should be speechless at Obama's travesty!

                                          You said this, I can't account for your logic, you don't make sense to me; Please understand that you only make talking points, not logic.

                                            #14.3 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
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                                            TryUsingLogic

                                            You said this, I can't account for your logic, you don't make sense to me;

                                            You are proof there is no hope in reaching the Liberal mind.

                                            Reason and logic is beyond your intellectual scope.........

                                              Reply#15 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:38 PM EDT
                                              Blayde

                                              For Christ's sake you are ignorant, blow the hat and tell me why you could survive one day in the desert? There are animals that don't like you; am I right?

                                                #15.1 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:56 PM EDT
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                                                TryUsingLogic

                                                For Christ's sake you are ignorant, blow the hat and tell me why you could survive one day in the desert?

                                                I survived the trama of Jimmy Carter.....and now making progress recovering from BO!

                                                But for you.....ignorance is bliss!

                                                America sees the problem....take you blinders off!

                                                  Reply#16 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
                                                  Blayde

                                                  Yes, I do think it is a case of PTSD, however if those two brought it on, I think there is a much deeper problem.

                                                  But for you.....ignorance is bliss!

                                                  Yes, I have become a Buddha, I know everything and nothing all in one moment, I feel bliss. (satire)

                                                  I am your idiot but...

                                                    Reply#17 - Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
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