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Is it reasonable to question the idea of prayer…..Yes!

Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:22 PM EST
religion, research, freedom, church, god, fear, prayer, belief, reason, logic, gods
By TryUsingLogic
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Christchurch Holds Prayers for Earthquake Victims
“Why did one person survive and one person die? Why did the people in the cathedral — of all places — perish?”
Up to 22 people may be buried in rubble at Christchurch Cathedral, most of them believed to be tourists climbing the bell tower for its panoramic views of the southern New Zealand city of Christchurch when it was struck by last Tuesday’s 6.3-magnitude quake.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/27/christchurch-holds-prayers-earthquake-victims/?test=latestnews

Father Jonathan Morris on Fox News Network says Christians should pick a terrorist to pray for and change their ways! Remember, the terrorists pray 5 times a day to Allah for a completely different outcome.

Study shows prayer has no beneficial effect…..
In the study, the researchers monitored 1,802 patients at six hospitals who received coronary bypass surgery, in which doctors reroute circulation around a clogged vein or artery.
The patients were broken into three groups. Two were prayed for; the third was not. Half the patients who received the prayers were told that they were being prayed for; half were told that they might or might not receive prayers.
The researchers asked the members of three congregations — St. Paul’s Monastery in St. Paul; the Community of Teresian Carmelites in Worcester, Mass.; and Silent Unity, a Missouri prayer ministry near Kansas City — to deliver the prayers, using the patients’ first names and the first initials of their last names.
The congregations were told that they could pray in their own ways, but they were instructed to include the phrase, “for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications.”
Analyzing complications in the 30 days after the operations, the researchers found no differences between those patients who were prayed for and those who were not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html?_r=1

How can "Faiths" look Truth squarely in the eye, without flinching?

For all you secular conservatives out there....join me in conversation at www.theFreedomOfBelief.com and www.theFreedomOfBelief.com/wordpress

John Wagner/TryUsingLogic

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TryUsingLogic

Be careful what you pray for......of course if prayer doesn't work....why waste the time?

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Reply#1 - Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:23 PM EST
Ripley8

http://fallenfromgrace.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/why.jpg

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Reply#2 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:58 AM EST
TryUsingLogic

Only medical science and direct intervention by mankind saves lives.....this statistic grows bigger every year.....and so do religions and prayers?

For more details, the National Center for Health Statistics offers a free report. The United Nations also offers a 2005 World Health Report. One of its key findings: this year almost 11 million children under the age of five will die from a preventable disease.

http://ask.yahoo.com/20051128.html

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#2.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:57 AM EST
Ripley8

I agree ....

like the bumper sticker says ...

26,000 children die of starvation every day ( and I'm sure they are praying ! )
Why should God answer YOUR prayers ?

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:28 AM EST
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Andrew-1162039

I've always liked the old line if prayer works why do churches need lightning rods?

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Reply#3 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:55 AM EST
TryUsingLogic

One step further.....if prayer works why do the faithful need churches with middlemen?

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#3.1 - Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:40 AM EST
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